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    Martin Scorsese and Leonardo DiCaprio team up for a fourth time for this adaptation of a novel by Dennis LeHane (MYSTIC RIVER). DiCaprio plays a U.S. marshal who travels to Shutter Island in search of the person who killed his wife. But when he enters the island's hospital, he discovers that the people there are performing experiments that are in direct violation of the Hippocratic Oath.

    Watched it today.
    Easily one of my favourite movies of all time.
    I feel like watching it again after seeing the ending of the movie.

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    Like Not nice i watch halfway keep talk talk talk

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    not simple ending

    to avoid spoiling too much, the true ending of the show depends on how you see it which perspective


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    Mind screwing movie, period.


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    seems like arkham asylum without batman.
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    Acting was pretty good, a major point in the film. Though I felt it had a cliche plot towards the end, but worth the watch otherwise. I watched it again to notice some points that substantiated the ending.

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    *Spoiler alert + wall of text for those who haven watch the movie*

    Nevertheless, an interesting read for those who are still wondering bout the ending.


















    There were clearly elements, conversations and plot points that were designed to make the audience believe that either scenario was possible.
    "Teddy's" statement "a place like this can make you wonder: is it better to live as a monster or die a good man?" let's you know he was only left with those two choices.
    If he is Teddy Daniels, he has resigned himself to the fact that his ability to live his life as a good man is lost. If he is Edward Laeddis, he sees no ability to be rehabilitated and live with his memories. Either way, he has given up all hope and allows himself to be mutilated or killed without a fight.

    I think this statement clearly shows he knows full well who he is - no relapse - just a cold grasp of his current situation. He is either pretending to have a relapse, or he is letting Sheehan/Chuck know he has not been brainwashed - so the he can be put out his misery. At the last moment, Chuck/Sheehan realizes Edward/Teddy is lucid and calls out to him. Chuck/Sheehan knows he is committing personality suicide.

    Here are some questions in support of the Edward Laeddis scenario:
    1) How did Cawley know about Ted/Ed's dreams? How did Cawley know that a little girl kept asking why he didn't save her? How did he know that Edward said "why are you wet, Baby?" to his wife? There is no scene when Edward tells his dreams to Chuck or anyone else. So you are left to assume it is because over the course of two years, Edward told Cawley or Sheehan his dreams.
    2) The guards are on edge at the dock, cocking their shotguns, staring angrily at Edward - are they fearful or maybe angry that this dangerous patient is being allowed to play out this fantasy?
    3) Why did Chuck abandon Edward in Ward C (the civil war fort)? Did they want him to find Noyce and speak to him alone?

    Now the Teddy Daniels scenario:
    1) The conversation with Noyce can't really be explained except in the context of Teddy's history: He had long conversations with Noyce after he was released from Shutter Island. Noyce is certain that Chuck is working for Cawley, Noyce has been told he going to the lighthouse because of what he knows, he is certain that Ted is being set up. How can this conversation make any sense if Teddy isn't Teddy?
    2) The conversation with Cawley in which the doctor tells Teddy that he has no partner, that his investigation threatens to ruin everything Cawley has been working on and then tells Teddy to get on the ferry. Why would Cawley suddenly shift gears about Chuck being his partner if this was all a fantasy? Wasn't this the first phase of making Teddy feel like he was crazy?
    3) Dr. Rachel - in the cave - predicted that they would use Teddy's past plus the drugs - to make him seem crazy. If she were imaginary, she is very insightful about Teddy's situation for a ghost.
    4) Why would Cawley put Teddy's badge and gun on the table in the lighthouse? Was Teddy being baited into acting violently so that he could be committed or lobotomized?
    5) Why would a doctor refer to a patient as "Boss"? Even after Sheehan revealed himself as his doctor, he still kept on calling Edward/Teddy "Boss". Why did Chuck/Sheehan call him Teddy at the end? It was an emotional moment - did he revert back to his role in the fantasy or did he call Teddy by his real name?

    Clearly, we are being given clues so that both scenarios are plausible. I think there is no right or wrong answer - it is left to the audience to decide


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    the movie is like mean diff for diff ppl


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